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MBMc

Amen.

A powerful post, Theresa Olive.

Philomena

Theresa,
I agree with you-I also feel like I have no experience of true sacrifice. What do you think it is that gives these people such a willingness to give up everything for their faith? Is it part of their nature (a gift), a result of their circumstances or something in their spiritual discipline that encourages them?

Thomas More

Hello friends,

Just an "editor's note" on Theresa Olive's posts and comments.

Given T.O.'s geographic location, she doesn't have great internet access, and has some security concerns to be mindful of--as you might have gathered if you read her friends' ordeal in this most recent post.

As such, please don't be offended if she can't reply to comments timely, or at all. I do know she appreciates your words, as do I.

You can get a little more insight into what she does in her first post: "My Life as a Wife, Mother & Missionary" which can be found by scrolling down to near the bottom of the page.

I'll be sure to pass along any comments I get from her.

My non-editor comment is: can you imagine HER feeling she's given up nothing? That can't be right! If I've given up less than her, I might be able to be at zero, but we certainly can't both be (maybe Philomena and I can occupy the same box, but T.O. can't be there with us!) Just shows you how much we have, and how much others give.

Beautiful.

Thomas More

Theresa Olive

Philomena, in looking at Philippians 3 I think we know Christ more deeply when we share in His sufferings. If we walk in faith, as these people I spoke of have, the more deeply we experience His sufferings, the more fully we know Him. (Phil 3:10) And to know Him more is to love Him more. Paul said he counted ALL THINGS rubbish compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Jesus--and for His sake Paul (like my friends) lost everything. Most of us Westerners miss out on this, I believe. Very few of us have had to really suffer or sacrifice for Him.

stoli

If I may ask, what was the dominant religeon that persecuted these people? What country was it?

Red

Theresa,

What do you think Paul means when he speaks of sharing in Christ's sufferings? Even this morning, some friends and I were discussing this topic. When I read Romans 8:16-18 and Philippians 3:9-11, it sounds like the sufferings are more of the martyr/faith persecution nature than the everyday trials we Westerners have. Will we experience the fullness of co-heirship with Christ if we have not suffered for our faith as your friends have?

Thomas More

Stoli and Red-

Just a reminder on my "Editor's Note" a couple comments above about T.O.'s ability to reply to comments. TO's limited access and some security issues probably prevent a full response to Stoli's inquiry, though not to Red's--if access allows it.

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